930in716 January 22, 2018 Pistol Permit Re-Certification

Monday, January 22nd

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It's 930. In 716. Pistol permit re certification deadline is looming if they do do it by email and you have a little bit how could your computer savvy I grew you can get it done in time that's us but many who need to recertify. Are none too pleased. At a raises some questions people get nervous. I'm Tim linger on the podcast powered by the Brothers of mercy. The deadline for the recertification. For pistol permit holders in New York State is January 31. For now. There are those making an effort to extend the deadline due to all of the confusion about the requirement which became a reality as a result of the NY safe act. We go in depth with the newly elected clerk in Erie county Mickey Kearns. His office is the hub for the recertification. Onslaught. It's amazing once again we're talking about Albany and 2013. I was a state assemblyman and I remember. Deep into the night. There was a package of bills put on my desk. And I was told to vote for that. Not without a chance to read it was a special Massachusetts necessity from the governor. I took the time. Before I voted like Mary McAleese a red. The bill and there was a provision in there doing what recertification. I did not support that bill it was not a well thought out bill. It was not a bill that was going to make a difference it was a political document. Are given by the governor governor. So I today's fast forward we now have a deadline looming January 31. Were average citizens could become tolerance I take this very seriously I know the state police. Was not part of the process and they said that they're not going to enforce it. Yesterday I was in hampered with a couple hundred people and event sponsored by school. We need to get this done you need to recertify. Absolutely I was out forty's last week. And continued to be out. Were offering services are the clerk's office to help you but please you have to recertify. Now whether the state police forces are not. On February 1 you do not recertified to me you're gonna be considered a Fallon those are strong words but in the law. He's not seen. As a former legislator. Any type of executive order from the governor I have not seen any legislative action I know what some women DPH oh and senator Galvin and senator ordered. A lot of my colleagues in the west York delegation have supported a bill to extend this. Document and there is legislation. But have not seen any legislation move so until that happens until that occurs. You need to get people to recertify. Because it's such an important thing if you are Fallon he was the right to vote. You could lose the right to even born all of your guns this is how serious this is you know there's a conference in Albany. Yesterday and today and tomorrow I did not attend because we're working on this issue. To make sure that every single citizen and her attorney who is a pistol permit holder. Certified as if it's been about approximately five. Erie county clerk Mickey Kearns joining us live in studio we're talking pistol permit recertification. And let's get down to the not symbols who needs to recertify. So it's been five years. We passed the state that in 2013. You need to recertify. If you have questions can always contact the county clerk's office this permit office. If you don't know what you're gardens are we can print out a list of your cons. Put there's two ways to do it you can go on line we have twenty Kia says it has the I kind. At the county clerk's office he clicked on that. And if you do it by email you'll get an email certification. You need to pistol permit and your driver's license. If you do you do it by paper at all of the auto purist we have people work there. I implore you to file by certified Nelson you have some type of receipt to prove that you file so that this is sent. Just to kind of be clear. Online is the fastest way for maybe the next fastest way if you go into. DMV. Or you go to the clerk so we don't get that 92 Franklin okay here's. Twenty computers there public computers. And were there to help you or you can do with the email it passed through a series of questions and you'll get eight email receipt it'll be sent right to you. Sometimes some people need some help they have a few different questions. If they need a list of their guns will print journalists there can't remember we are. If indeed it down there on a daily basis what people adding on discussing at this point in time. If you do do buy paper. When I'm suggesting is we just had a outreach yesterday. And we're gonna continue to have outreach is to try to make sure that everyone has that opportunity. And by the numbers. Do you know how many have done it and how many have yet to. We're at today I'll get the new numbers from the state police were at approximately 24000. I nearly. 191000 plus have done it electronically. But here's the thing if you talk to the state please. Over 4000 have done a part paper as they please their border to mainly put those into the computer so we really don't know what that number race over. They're estimating that they've given us that were at approximately 24000. And has been some estimates that there are 90000 plus permit holders in Erie county. If she were a few thousand off there and we have a lot of people that are recertified yet. Erie county clerk Mickey turns joining us live in studio talking all about pistol permit. Recertification Mickey we were going through some of the numbers and a lot of people still need to recertify you said you get the updated numbers today. How many people do you think are going to miss this upcoming deadline of the end of the month if that deadline stays were it is I. Think more than a ton of Buffalo Sabres game and I don't mean that facetiously. He'd be over 20000 people 25000 people. We are very concerned about that. According to the law in that provision in the law it's had automatic revocation of their license it's a very serious serious matter. I drafted a letter to the governor asking him to extend the deadline I nor legislative leaders are and our local officials are doing in the past that they can. Urged the governor through suit through some type of executive order legislative action to extend the deadline. But to me once again I cannot emphasize this. Although the state police they've import sort of put it in the middle on this issue they've been asked to do something they weren't part of the process. Even if they do not enforce this law. According to the provision it's a felony if you do not re serve. Hi what is the chance what are you hearing about. And extending the deadline we haven't heard much from the governor you know the state and senate I know some of the DPH over senator Jacobs were on their way to Albany yesterday. On the attended. The reality. They attended the recertification. Meeting for school. And they conveyed to me that they are working very hard along with senator port and all of our elected offices to get this they understand they hear that from. There on constituents we have senior citizens who may be in nursing homes they need be I'm in Florida. They just may have forgotten. They may be taken care of a loved one there's so many different things that need to be taken into account. We need to have some type of extension on this that mind. And I'm hopeful that the governor will give us that extension. At the number one reason we're hearing from people is that they just. Didn't know they weren't aware we see the tax all the time I wouldn't of known I need to research finalists I just heard different you are you hearing the same thing. I am here in the same thing you know there is snapped and notification the one thing. Any time when you're dealing with the law due process in the law is notice and there has not been notification there has been letter sent out but we do not know that. And I wouldn't be surprised before the 31 if there was some type of legal action or someone who filed some type of suit. Are on those grounds that they have not been notified by the the state police or the state that they have to recertify. And if they don't they face the chance of being a felon which would mean removal of any guns that they handle all guns loss of right to vote. I'm very important right that we have that it should not be taken for granted. And just because. Something is not being enforced does not mean that the law is not broken. So to meet the provision into the legislature the governor changes that provision to me after January 31. You could be considered Fallon. I you can lose your balance that's a fact until someone changes that fact. And I'm urging people to recertify. And to get that on and to talk to your uncles or cousins and he won. I just remind them because rob we all have such busy lives and if they do not know that they need to do that that they have to recertify its a very important thing. To do and just to be clear these numbers you're giving us 20000 people maybe it's just you recount. That's just your absolutely right Geary county is a very large county when the largest counties in the stated New York. I'll put you right. And I'll be looking for it like it's at the state police will be sending us the numbers today. And let's hope that the number is based on all of the outreach is that we've done throughout Erie county. I'm from Springdale to Boston to hamper to east Rorer. To buffalo we've been all over the place. I feel like Johnny Cash I've been everywhere man here but it's like really it's that important that we did need to get on how. Quickly can somebody to do this track on the process tank or some people are more computer savvy than others are so if you do buy paper. I think you can do it done you can get it done pretty quickly. It's is filling out paper the most important thing is a listing your fire arms once again. If you do not know that are we can print off a list at the a county clerk's office 92 Franklin. Three charge we know how important this is to get done. And also if they do do it by email and you have a little bit hop in your computer savvy I believe you can get it on in ten minutes plus. For the pistol permit holder many view it as a nuisance unnecessary. Firearms instructor and WB EN law enforcement contributor Miguel Rivera is in touch with lots of permit holders on this one. What we're getting it from both but I do despite some Tomlin got. Optical that they were aware they were hearing anything. Or they're not sure you're there'd be intimidated by air in the longer some people are confused. And Internet and others that are like you know all about. Stewart oh you'll vote. The law and her parents and more legislation Bluetooth to connect stoppage. Partners that kind of walk in our. Other concerns that some folks have about the recertification as far as trying to. Rick kolbe pistols they have a requirement that they be of use and a couple of years. And it's not a particular. A bad thing like access to try to remember welcomes a new record or that you have now so basically you're doing an on line. He's going and answered some pedigree information so you're very. Your address or your permit number is. And it kind of lifting he wanted to guns. That they're currently on your program at this time and they kind of answering got you know just maybe one or two. Basic questions on each of the fire all of its unity deal reactor to sorry you'll receive a knee. Or notification that you are renewal has burn or you root certification and that crossed. And that's our line is if you during your you know of course you have to mail order and wait for responds. And again I think that. Did that no one was hired to do their. Specifically. You know they're there to society task are believed to state police and some other state employees so. Not that they didn't have enough to do already but it is kind of added work and it's kind of in a buck the system down records are records. From the people we've spoken to both sides some okay within some worried about this. Are some upset that they have to go through this process. You know absolutely one whenever you have to go forward if you elect an. Extra who. Or or your attitude to notify. And entities that are ready older and murdered battery old hacker permit. The kind of raises some questions people get nervous. You know because you kind of rehashing which have already. And again you know that you're gonna try to put a five year expiration date on the social perverts. You know to be effective and it does it there were people there who don't want something you're gone on you never get back and get something back with the way. We'll keep you posted on any possibility of a recertification. Extension. And were back tomorrow. That's 9:30 PM 716. We're back tomorrow with a net irritation from the studios of WPA and buffalo well.